Introducing David Wolk to our Group

 David Wolk recently joined us. He traces his ancestry back to Lazarus's, son William.

Manley Ancestor Going Back to 1,000 A.D.

(Doug Manley is responsible for this.)

 

Perspective: The Poulton Project

About five or six years ago, I joined http://ManleyDNA.com and got a lot from it. But I was unaware that it started as a result of the Poulton Project! All these years of wondering whether I could find the father of George Manley. Suddenly, I am back at the Poulton Project with Sir Nicholas as my 11th generation grandfather! Incredibly interesting.

All of the people I emailed with, including Jim Maule, Cathy Manly Sockol, many others. You can see on the right a response from Jim Maule to my entreaties that he be closer to me than 1500 years ago!

Some things you might do - Wikitree is excellent! You need an email address and a password to log in but you might try "Manley-209" to see what it's like. It's http://www.wikitree.com.

The "Meet the Ancestors: The Black Hand" is not available, but the transcript is. See this URL.

The Poulton Project is not available, but a close project is. See the Time Teams work.

Manley/Manly - Moved Back Five Generations!

Well, Doug Manley extended his streak. In addition to to Thomas Manley, father of George Manley, he has extended this streak back to 1475, with the birth of Sir Nicholas Manley. That's five generations.

• Let see them in turn. The father of George is Thomas Manley. He was born in 1605 in London and died in Banbury in 1683. (George is the father of Lazarus Manley.)

• The father of Thomas is Richard Manley. There are two Richards in a row. There is not much on the first one. He lived to be almost 72. He married Margaret Larken in 1583.

• Then his father, also Richard Manley, married Marie Lowman in 1549. He lived to 65.

• Now to the "Sirs." The first was Sir Peter Manley, called DeManLegh. He was born in London in 1518 and died in Babington in 1590. He lived to be 72.

• Now to Sir Nicholas Manley. born in Babington in 1475. He died in Poulton in 1520. He is the focus on the Poulton Research effort resulting in the BBC's 1998 "Meet your Ancestors: The Black Hand." He married Stanley Ellen. He died when he was only 45 years old. Below is a clay mask from his skeleton. Look familiar?

Welcome to Anne Woodworth's Lazarus Addition!

Welcome Anne Woodworth! Anne had a penchant for taking little genealogy trips. She was famous for her Carthage trips, and Linda, David and I joined her on a trip to Fairfield, Illinois. She was the first to tie Lazarus Manley to our list of descendants.

When she passed away, she left her rather massive genealogy collection to her son, Bobby Armstrong. There was much discussion about what to do. Finally, the children of all of us decided that the collection should be digitized. The first attempt was to digitize the first Lazarus "book." This David and I did when he visited me in January.

Because this this book is over sixty megabytes, it can't be served in the usual way, so I sent Adobe email to the usual culprits, and it was possible to download the file for free. It has it own place in the Adobe cloud which I maintain for about $14/month, which I think is a deal! I can make PDF's of any length. People can download them and use them for free.

 This is Anne Woodworth in her home.
It's a cute place, nicely done. With lots of genealogy!

 This was taken in 2007 when we did Carthage. We stopped by Hank's (below).

 Hank was a long time admirer! He had a team of workers in his work area. He was working on an old radio, an old Zenith, I think.

Here she embraces Katie (of Sarah and Katie). We have the photo to them all below. Sarah and Katie are the daughters of Carol, the daughter of Bob Manley.

 Here is the pictures of her house.

And here is the picture of Carol's two daughters and their husbands. Carol you'll remember is the daughter of Bob Manley.

We Have a New Grandfather!

We have the father to George Manly. He is Thomas Manly!

We have to thank Doug Manley for this.

(Doug goes back to Lazarus Manley - and indeed Thomas and George - but came from one of Lazarus's different sons, George Manley).

Who else is involved? A great-great-great-great-great-great-great great great grandmother: Cassandra Button.

And for those for whom this Blog is a new thing: George Manly's wife: Elizabeth Basstone.

Best,
Jim

Better: "Our" (Proto)-Gaul

According to Mike Parker Pearson, there are no Celts in England or Ireland. They are Gauls.

So not to be confusing, let's dispense of "Celt" altogether. It's significant that the U152's later on most probably became Gauls. This link has some excellent maps as well as the material on the Bituriges, who flourished from the 6th century BC is what is now Belgium. They are Celts, too. I'm not sure what the larger category is.

Our Proto-Gaul forefather, then, lived about 1,600 BC, about a 1,000 years before the Bituriges. But the link above references David K. Faux and his "Hypothesis C" which involves U152 and has to do with the connection of this ancestor and the Bituriges.