Tuesday, March 24, 2015

DNA Test and Updates

It's been some time since I've posted. Genealogical insight seems to come in fits and starts. This past several weeks has seen quite a lot of activity which I want to summarize and record so that it does float away.

I've found three excellent (distant) cousins who are also excellent resources: James Edward Maule, Doug Manley, and Dr. Mark Manley.

James Edward Maule traces his ancestry back to Georgius Maule and beyond - to the Lairds of Panmure (Scotland). He is a lawyer in Pennsylvania  and has done a lot of genetic testing and is quite knowledgeable about the tests and their implications. His kit is #14125.

I learned about him in Cathy Manly Sockol's  "Manly/Manley Family Tree DNA Project." This project supports Family Tree DNA with the "Manley/Manly/Munley" (and more) surname projects. There are many of them. I think "Maule" is a varient of "Manley" along with "Mawley," "Mawle" and several others.

We've been emailing back and forth in recent weeks, especially in regard to the DNA connection that exists between the Maule family and the Manley family. That connection is discussed here. In particular, notice Cathy Sockol's reply to my question of May 11, 2011. She affirms a genetic  connection between the Maule's and Manley's. She puts it at 325 years to the most recent common ancestor (Georgius, or his son Thomas). It's more, but we are talking about a "ballpark" figure.

Jim Maule on the other hand suggested that while the genetic distance was plausible, the time to the most recent common ancestor (TMRCA) was much more remote, perhaps as remote as 2,500 years ago. I inclined initially to Cathy's optimistic interpretation, but I've not been able to replicate it. I also note that the intersection on the charts does not fall on a colored cell, indicating a close (or closer) DNA connection. Also, there are individuals from Kazakhstan who share the same (or very similar) haplotype to mine and to Jim Maule's "almost-similar" haplotype. This suggests a more distant remote common ancestor.

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